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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

WHO hasn't considered the "am I cool yet?" issue?

Well, Rose and RingleeO I suppose? That's what good looks do for you, eh?

But, for us mere mortals--or should I say the "boys"--it was of constant concern at the time of our interest in the band.

I'll never forget a pysch major (grad school) making the point that most of "us" (70s) had long hair in no way, shape or form as an act of rebellion: it was, as he said forcefully, "to get chicks". Think about it--when I cut my really long hair (yes, for bball) at 16 yrs, it was a hugely "uncool" move...I realized then I'd had long hair to be like my bros, to be cool.

As for the shows, I did stray from the jeans, t-shirt, tennis shoes motif by picking up (from Goodwill) a nice used Cowboy Shirt, and fit right in with Bob and Jerry from the S&R pic, ya know?

Otherwise, I only took my wallet and car keys into a show, along with the sm bottle of So Comfort, almost alwasy "found" at the door and thrown out (thought of lots of places to put it, but "luck" was all that explained it making it in...).

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Feb 14, 2013 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

My trick is to put the keys away while still "straight" and then don't even think about them again until its time to find the car...chances are if you can find the car you can find the keys and vis-versa. A good sobriety test.

The worst thing you can do is to take them out and handle them while in a state of uncertain mental capacity. That is how they get lost, because then you have no idea what happened to them or if you even had them or if you are actually even here...or where here really is...next thing you know you are twirling.

I had to walk the streets of SF after a Warfield show for a few hours trying to find my car. The problem turned out to be that I would always turn around thinking I had gone too far - psychedelic time warp -turned out I was only walking 2 or 3 blocks before freaking out and turning around and going back to the Warfield and then starting over again. I finally walked just another block and there it was right where I left it. The drive back home on the bay bridge was like a video game at 4am. Just me and my car and all the pretty lights. I must admit that some of the very best times I had at a show were when I went alone, I could be anyone I wanted, no one was thinking - he sure is acting strange tonight. Freedom!

we smuggled in a whole 12 pack and an ice chest to a Hampton show in '86. The folks around us were impressed.

Two big guys with a 6 pack each strapped to their backs and one mule carrying an empty cooler...the mule went in 10 folks behind us. She said they were confused but had no rule against an empty cooler so they let it pass.

Once inside we scored ice from the vendors and VIOLA - a cooler full of Bud on ice. We traded a few for whip-its. It was more for the "we did it" thing than anything else. After a few hundred concerts you need to add some spice to keep it interesting.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 14, 2013 6:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Oh yeah right. Girls don't worry about being cool. "What do I wear?" is only a guy question.

My version of the Overstuffed Pockets was on the way to my first "road trip" -- which was only maybe 2-3 hours away, but it felt like some kind of amazing adventure. So I helpfully showed up at the car with this huge grocery bag full of the most ridiculous picnic supplies. Basically everything my mom would have brought: Wheat Thins, Triscuits, dip, etc. For all I know I had little carrot sticks and radish flowers. I guess I thought we might be snowed in en route and living on my supplies for a week. We really had to squeeze into the car to fit around the Gigantic Bottomless Mom Bag.



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

>"What do I wear?" is only a guy question.

And who do a majority of women concerned with such questions dress for if not themselves? Men or other women? I would argue the latter, by far.



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Oh, I don't think it's as simple as "men, other women or yourself." When I was 20, if there was a guy I liked, I'm sure I cared about what he'd think. But at the same time I doubt I ever thought that a guy would look at some scarf I had on and think, "Wow, that looks great, I really want to go out with her because she has such excellent taste in scarves." Uh huh.

I think everyone wants to look "good," whatever their age/lifestyle/gender/etc., and that means the judgment of others, consciously or not. If people paid no attention to others at all, well, today I might put on an Edwardian tea gown because it would be so pretty. But unfortunately I would look insane. So I wouldn't. Also my closet is unfortunately thin on Edwardian tea gowns.

But the key thing about those vague theoretical "Others" is that it really means "Those Others Whose Judgment Agrees with Mine Because They're So Innately Sensible." So even if you could say you're "dressing for Others," you're really dressing for yourself and your own idea of what's nice.

Well, unless you watch "What Not to Wear." And then I just can't comment cuz I don't get it at all.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

I just looked up What Not to Wear and I can not help you.

My comment about who women dress for has been impressed on me by other women. Though anecdotal, it does strike me as something I've heard across time and place and generation. Maybe the flipped quarter has just come up heads 80 times in a row for me> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbInZ5oJ0bc

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

I haven't seen it a lot, but my SIL loves it. I always think they start out looking better than they end up. So I guess I don't dress for the women who watch What Not to Wear. Fortunately I'm far away or I'd probably become the Lucky Recipient of a Surprise Makeover. I'd be in the show where all you see is someone running away, very fast.

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Feb 14, 2013 10:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

I have seen the show a few times and I couldn't agree more...I would be running away right along with you! I also think the women always look better before...I love my clothes and $5000 wouldn't get me to part with them...and trust me, the people on that show would get rid of just about everything I own. They would also make me cut my hair and dye it...there is no way I'm doing either of those things.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 15, 2013 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Ha--well, actually, I think you and DD support my thesis (which was NOT "do both sexes care?", a truism of course, but how do they differ in this regard due to the 60s?)...specifically, what I was commenting on was the fact that in HS, in the 70s, we DEAD Heads thought we were being counter culturish, anti-establishment, blah, blah, blah, but it was far more about being cool, and appealing, and all the other guy stuff (gal stuff too).

However, the gals at Cal were far more serious about it: one (I did) only compare the guys and gals of the 70s at Cal vs ASU: huge, huge differences in dress, shaving, etc (all stereotypes apply). Guys could be swapped between those two campuses much more easily without shock than could the gals...

In any event, nothing so ironclad as my usu confidence would imply, but really, for the gals it was more of a dramatic shift than the guys, it seemed...and, they perhaps "changed more" by giving up on the "what not to wear" approach (which is western society standards, but pretty simple stuff about symetry, curves, and hair length, blah, blah)...?

Nonetheless, I would venture to say that you two may represent the dress code moreso that many of the males here? Dunno...interesting question.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 14, 2013 10:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Apparently your love of the beverage didn't approach this man's commitment to his phone:

http://pix11.com/2013/02/11/prisoner-smuggles-cell-phone-in-rectum-gets-busted-after-receiving-booty-call/#axzz2Ktl11bEw

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 14, 2013 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Ha! ONe look at the "title" and I decided not to "click" (I found the best approach was taping it to the small of your back...above beltline, but they even felt there sometimes!).